Philadelphia High School Basketball
A Look at Southern's Back-to-Back
Public League Champs in 1985-86 and 1986-87
(25-1
both seasons. Both losses were in non-league games were by one point;
to Roman in a 1985-86 showcase event and to Willingboro (NJ) in a 1986-87
tournament.)
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A reunion of Southern's 1985-86 champs in 2014. Coach Mitch Schneider and, L to R, Kevin Smith, Lionel Simmons, Chris D'Angelo, Jason Waters and Marshall Taylor. --
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1985-86 & 1986-87 Tribute Page for Southern's Back to Back PL Champs This story was written in 1986 after the Rams, coached by Mitch Schneider and featuring a roster with only South Philly residents, won the Public League championship (first time since 1946) and finished 25-1 overall. They duplicated the feat in 1987 with only one returning starter, Robert "World" Stokes. He was the hero in the '86 final. By Ted Silary
Since when can an ankle injury suffered by a starter in the first half-
minute of the Public League basketball championship game evolve into a twist
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Simmons missed the freebie with 1:01 left, but Southern received
possession at midcourt and wasted time until the clock melted under
0:10. Taylor then drove the left side of the lane and passed to
Simmons on the baseline. Lionel drew two defenders and spotted Stokes cutting down the right side of the lane. Stokes's shot looked as if it might have connected anyway, but the fact that Smalls goaltended will cause never-ending speculation. "It was the right call," said Smalls, who had 12 points and 11 rebounds. ''I was just a little too late getting across the lane (to Stokes)." Meanwhile, in these times of myriad transfers, Schneider wants to get across the point that Southern's 10-man roster this season was composed entirely of South Philadelphia residents. In fact, Schneider claimed only one player he has coached in 12 years ''couldn't walk to our school." That would be Truck Butts, who transferred from Overbrook to Southern just before the 1978-79 season only because he envisioned limited playing time on a powerhouse that would go 34-1. Would-be franchises of the past often set sail in the other direction. Guard Andre McCarter, a South Philadelphian, led Overbrook to championships in 1970 and '71, and Clarence Tillman, another neighborhood product, helped West Philly take titles in '76, '77 and '78. Even Jerome "Pooh" Richardson lived in South Philly when he entered Benjamin Franklin, although he moved to Logan soon thereafter. Whether or not they were induced to leave South Philly, the point is that they did. "We want the South Philly kids to stay home. We love 'em. That's crucial to how we want to do things and I have always strived for that," Schneider said. ''We're not going to go out and recruit. "The guys who left, I felt, were shortchanging their friends, the school and the community. But I can also understand that kids love to go with a winner. To us, winning with dignity is the only way to do it. And with all of our players being home- grown, we can say we've done that." Now that the championship has been won, Lionel Simmons might even summon the courage to discuss with the ever-hyper Schneider how he almost transferred at one point. "We were playing Franklin one time and coach Schneider wouldn't let me play," Simmons said. "I had a slight injury. I thought I could play. He said it would be better to sit out. I was real angry and I was ready to transfer. "But then I said, 'Nah, I'll stay here. ' I'm sure glad I did." TITLE TIDBITS: University City forward David Scott had 21 points, seven rebounds . . . Southern lost to Murrell Dobbins Tech, 86-62, in last year's final . . . Lead guard Marshall Taylor had 12 points, six assists. "I knew they'd be tough," Taylor said, "because they felt we beat them by luck the last time." . . . Health problems forced referee Tom DeFelice to the sidelines. Vince Trombetta, who lives two doors away from DeFelice in Southwest Philly, took his place . . . Southern was 64-7 in Lionel Simmons's three-year career and its record in the 1980s is 129-31 . . . U. City, which joined the league for the '74 season, had made the playoffs only in '80 and '84 before this year, losing its first game both times. |
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1985-86
Postseason Honors . . . Daily News All-City First Team -- Lionel Simmons, Player of the Year Third Team -- Marshall Taylor Daily News All-Public First Team -- Lionel Simmons Second Team -- Marshall Taylor Fifth Team -- Robert "World" Stokes Coaches All-Public First Team -- Lionel Simmons Second Team -- Marshall Taylor Third Team -- Robert "World" Stokes 1986-87 Postseason Honors . . . Daily News All-City First Team -- Robert "World" Stokes, Will Scott Daily News All-Public First Team -- Robert "World" Stokes, Will Scott Fourth Team -- Kevin Smith Coaches All-Public First Team -- Robert "World" Stokes, Will Scott Second Team -- Kevin Smith |
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This story
was written in 1986 after Lionel Simmons and Southern earned a tough
win at University City . . .
By Ted Silary |
This story
was written after Lionel Simmons scored 56 points to break
Southern's record . . .
By Ted Silary |
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SCORING BREAKDOWN FOR LEAGUE GAMES | ||||||||
1986 | G | Pts | PPG | 1st | Qtr | Semi | Final | |
SOUTHERN | Pky | Fkn | Gtz | UC | ||||
Coach - Mitch Schneider | ||||||||
Record - 13-0, 25-1 | ||||||||
Starters | ||||||||
Lionel Simmons | 13 | 427 | 32.8 | 27 | 26 | 29 | 21 | |
Marshall Taylor | 13 | 78 | 6.0 | 10 | 2 | 16 | 12 | |
Al Baur | 13 | 131 | 10.1 | 16 | 9 | 10 | 4 | |
Clarence Jackson | 11 | 95 | 8.6 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 1 | |
Robert "World" Stokes | 13 | 170 | 13.1 | 19 | 13 | 8 | 20 | |
Key Subs | ||||||||
Kevin Smith | 7 | 54 | 7.7 | 6 | 7 | 3 | 8 | |
Demetrius Butler | 9 | 54 | 6.0 | 2 | 1 | |||
Others | ||||||||
Chris D'Angelo | 8 | 28 | 3.5 | |||||
Tony Austin | 2 | 20 | 10.0 | |||||
Gerald Blackman | 6 | 24 | 4.0 | 6 | ||||
Jason Waters | 8 | 24 | 3.0 | 5 | ||||
Will Scott | 1 | 2 | 2.0 | |||||
13 | 1107 | 85.2 | 97 | 65 | 73 | 66 | ||
SOUTHERN 1986-87 | ||||||||
SOUTHERN | G | Pts | PPG | Edi | Gtz | Fkn | West | |
Coach - Mitch Schneider | ||||||||
Record - 13-0, 25-1 | ||||||||
Starters | ||||||||
Will Scott | 13 | 260 | 20.0 | 22 | 21 | 23 | 11 | |
Robert "World" Stokes | 13 | 236 | 18.2 | 23 | 26 | 12 | 12 | |
Kevin Smith | 11 | 179 | 16.3 | 9 | 12 | 17 | 10 | |
Nelson Brown | 13 | 116 | 8.9 | 16 | 12 | 16 | 18 | |
Jason Waters | 12 | 69 | 5.8 | 6 | 1 | 6 | 12 | |
Key Subs | ||||||||
Terrance McDuffie | 12 | 59 | 4.9 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 12 | |
Greg Wright | 9 | 49 | 5.4 | 6 | 2 | |||
Others | ||||||||
Marcel Boyce | 10 | 58 | 5.8 | 7 | 1 | |||
Lou Myers | 8 | 32 | 4.0 | 4 | 2 | |||
Jerry Richardson | 6 | 28 | 4.7 | |||||
Ty Bradley | 9 | 28 | 3.1 | |||||
Don Ralls | 6 | 24 | 4.0 | |||||
Paul Lewis | 4 | 23 | 5.8 | |||||
13 | 1161 | 89.3 | 95 | 78 | 81 | 75 |
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