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    The 28th annual Daily News-Eagles City All-Star Game was played May 18,
7 p.m., at Northeast High. Non-Public won, 16-14.
    Send your post-game comments to silaryt@phillynews.com


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   An alumni group for former participants in the Daily News-Eagles City All-Star Game
is being formed. Please contact Greg Schnee at 215-757-3564 or greg7575@aol.com.

   I urge game participants to click here for an inspirational note from a former basketball
star in Philly now making his mark in education. Thanks!

NON-PUBLIC 16, PUBLIC 14

Non-Pub

Public

First Downs

12 9

Rushes-Yards

39-142 43-104

Passing Yards

105 55

Total Offense

247 159

Passes

6-12-0 3-8-0

Return yards

19 1

Punts

3-25.3 6-30.2

Fumbles lost

2 0

Penalties-yards

2-11 7-78

Non-Public     0 13 3 0 --  16

Public            14 0 0 0 --  14

P:Sanders 1 run (run failed)
P: Gore 2 run (Sanders run)
N-P: Lachman pass from Hennigar (O'Brien kick)
N-P: Chromiak 19 pass from Gallagher (kick failed)
N-P: FG O'Brien 37

RUSHING

NON-PUBLIC: Chris Scott-Peters, Neumann, 18-65;
Kyle Ambrogi, SJ Prep, 10-36; Scott Downey, Ryan,
4-11; Sean McGovern, Dougherty, 2-14; Vince Gallagher,
SJ Prep, 2-12; Tom Maisch, Roman, 1-6; Justin
O'Brien, Judge, 1-2; Greg Hennigar, Judge, 1-(-4).
PUBLIC: Omar Sanders, Overbrook, 9-35; Chris
DeShields, Mastbaum, 9-12; Donald Jefferson, King,
5-21; Chris Poindexter, Northeast, 5-16; Ryan Gore,
Washington, 5-11; Marcus Waddy, Frankford, 3-5; Phil
Evans, Bartram, 3-(-3); Bruce Morris, U. City, 2-12;
Jeffrey King, Germantown, 1-10; center snap 1-(-15).

PASSING

NON-PUBLIC: Greg Hennigar, Judge, 4-9-0 -- 55;
Vince Gallagher, SJ Prep, 2-2-0 -- 50; Sean
McGovern, Dougherty, 0-1-0 -- 0. PUBLIC: Omar
Sanders, Overbrook, 2-6-0 -- 45; Phil Evans,
Bartram, 1-2-0 -- 10.

RECEIVING

NON-PUBLIC: Jim Lachman, SJ Prep, 4-84; Pete
Chromiak, SJ Prep, 1-19; Justin O'Brien, Judge,
1-2. PUBLIC: Romar Drake, Bartram, 1-38; Omar
Sanders, Overbrook 1-10; Donald Jefferson, King,
1-7.

KICKOFF RETURNS

NON-PUBLIC: Justin O'Brien, Judge, 1-19.
PUBLIC: Barren Grier, Dobbins, 1-1.

PUNT RETURNS

NON-PUBLIC: Mike Haigh, Judge, 1-0; Justin

O'Brien, Judge, 1-0.

INTERCEPTION RETURNS

None.

FUMBLE RETURNS

PUBLIC: Chris DeShields, Mastbaum, 1-0; Chris Poindexter, Northeast, 1-0.

TACKLING LEADERS

NON-PUBLIC: Rich Ott, Ryan, 8; Mike
Piotrowicz, North, 7; Jim McAteer, Judge, 6; Tom
Lynch, Judge, and Bryan Navin, Neumann, 5.
PUBLIC: Maurice Bennett, Washington, and Anthony
Winder, Mastbaum, 10; Ryan Gore, Washington,
and Richard Cheek, Roxborough, 6; Alfort DeJesus,
Dobbins, 5.

MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS

NON-PUBLIC: Sean Hennigar, Judge, offense; Rich
Ott, Ryan, defense. PUBLIC: Omar Sanders, Overbrook,
offense; Maurice Bennett, Washington, defense.

SPORTSMANSHIP WINNERS
NON-PUBLIC: Dan Graf, Judge. PUBLIC: Richard 
Cheek, Roxborough.

ROSTERS FOR 2002 GAME
(Comments below rosters)

NON-PUBLIC

No.

Name

School

Pos

Ht

Wt

8

Vince Gallagher

SJ Prep

QB

6-1

190

10

Chris Scott-Peters

Neumann

RB

6-1

210

11

Scott Downey

Ryan

RB

5-10

200

12

Greg Hennigar

Judge

QB

6-3

200

14

Mike Mailey

SJ Prep

DE

6-4

245

15

Pete Chromiak

SJ Prep

WR

6-2

200

17

Sean McGovern

Dougherty

QB

6-1

180

18

Brian Hannan

N. Catholic

DB

5-9

175

21

Jim Lachman

SJ Prep

WR

6-3

215

22

Jim McAteer

Judge

DB

5-10

180

23

Mike Haigh

Judge

WR

5-9

150

24

Dan Graf

Judge

DB

6-0

165

25

Adam Hepp

SJ Prep

DB

6-1

205

27

Kevin Dolan

Roman

DB

5-9

165

31

Kyle Ambrogi

SJ Prep

RB

5-10

215

33

Bryan Navin

Neumann

DB

6-0

190

35

Justin O'Brien

Judge

RB

5-10

180

37

Ryan Dopkin

Roman

DB

5-10

170

43

Tom Maisch

Roman

RB

5-9

175

44

Anthony Alosi

Roman

DL

5-9

195

47

Mike Piotrowicz

N. Catholic

LB

6-1

215

48

Tim Giangiulio

SJ Prep

DL

5-10

215

49

Tom Lynch

Judge

LB

5-10

210

50

Ryan Loftus

Judge

DL

6-2

195

51

Dave McDermott

SJ Prep

DE

5-10

175

52

Mark Meighan

Neumann

LB

5-9

185

55

Steve Ricci

Judge

L

6-0

240

56

Joe Kerins

SJ Prep

LB

6-1

220

58

Rich Ott

Ryan

LB

6-1

220

61

Justin Adams

Neumann

L

6-3

225

62

Ryan Brody

Roman

DL

6-1

230

65

Steve Mair

SJ Prep

L

6-3

230

71

Mike Minetti

SJ Prep

L

6-0

195

72

John Connors

SJ Prep

L

6-3

280

76

Joe Troiano

SJ Prep

L

5-9

280

78

Ryan Nase

Judge

L

6-3

295

79

John Gaynor

Judge

L

6-1

280

81

Pete Welsh

SJ Prep

P

6-2

175

85

Brian Tucci

SJ Prep

TE

6-4

220

89

Dave Quaintance

Ryan

DL

6-5

275

Coach: Tommy Coyle, Judge

Positions are tentative

PUBLIC

No.

Name

School

Pos.

Ht.

Wt.

8

Aleem Medley

Franklin

WR

6-1

185

10

Omar Sanders

Overbrook

QB

5-9

165

11

Phil Evans

Bartram

QB

6-1

205

12

Marcus Waddy

Frankford

RB

5-9

150

14

Bruce Morris

Univ. City

DL

5-11

245

15

Leon Pettyjohn

Southern

WR

5-11

195

17

Barren Grier

Dobbins

WR

6-3

190

18

Chris Poindexter

Northeast

RB

5-9

190

22

Darien Hardy

Northeast

DB

5-10

185

23

Donald Jefferson

King

RB

5-10

185

24

Romar Drake

Bartram

WR

6-2

195

25

Chris DeShields

Mastbaum

RB

5-10

195

27

Jeffrey King

Germantown

DB

5-8

160

31

Anthony Winder

Mastbaum

LB

6-0

195

33

Maurice Bennett

Washington

LB

5-10

225

35

Ryan Gore

Washington

LB

5-11

205

37

Shahfin Timmons

Lincoln

DB

5-10

180

43

Will McCall

Bok

DB

5-5

160

44

David Montgomery

Northeast

LB

6-0

225

47

Ryan McMillian

Northeast

DB

5-8

155

48

Corey Sample

Northeast

DB

5-9

175

49

Munir Nuriddin

Central

LB

5-11

170

51

Ty Brannock

Lincoln

LB

5-10

185

52

Londale Walden

Northeast

DL

5-9

210

55

Harry Max

Northeast

LB

5-8

195

56

Maurice Kelley

Bartram

DL

6-2

220

58

Shawn Jeter

Bok

L

6-1

260

63

Russell Kubach

Mastbaum

L

5-10

220

65

Richard Cheek

Roxborough

DL

6-3

260

66

Gary Dunlap

King

DL

6-0

235

67

Jason Bermudez

Washington

L

5-7

210

71

Ian Greaves

Bartram

L

6-0

220

72

Tracy Williams

Frankford

L

6-5

350

73

Alfort DeJesus

Dobbins

DL

6-0

235

74

Boe Davis

Franklin

DL

6-3

295

76

Harold Dawling

Northeast

L

6-2

230

79

Tyrique Johnson

Bok

DL

6-1

250

81

Michael Harcum

Olney

WR

6-0

165

85

Terrell Roper

W. Phila.

TE

6-0

215

89

Jonathan Jordan

Franklin

TE

6-2

270

90

Joseph Smith

Bartram

LB

6-1

215

Coach: Damond "Smash" Warren, King

Positions are tentative

PRE-GAME COMMENTS . . .

  This should be a real good game, with at the end the Catholic League prevailing.This will once and for-all show what league is better, but then again it doesn't because just imagine if the catholic schools surrounding Philly could play like Carroll and Bonner, this game would be a complete blowout. But with the rosters the way they are now, I dont see the PUb having a chance.
---- BanksShots

   (Ted's note: The series has gone back and forth since its inception. The CL club does look very strong. The CL schools in
the suburbs play in various county games.)

   Could someone please alert me why the likes of Prep Fullback Bill Murray, the son of perhaps Phalli's sexiest man Lance Shaw, and Prep Wide Receiver Senesi Blake, the finest non player in the PCL, are not on a roster.  Could it be possible to perhaps make them honorary captains?
---- anonymous
   (Ted's note: Doubt it -- smile. The Prep has enough representation. Even a non-starter is on the squad.)

   the non public defense is a hard hitting sqaud with blue collar defenders and hard noses for the ball. I dont think its goin to be very easy for the public league to get around or through that defensive line or linebacker's Tommy Lynch, Rich Ott, and Adam Hepp as well as those D-backs.
---- Gerard Prodoehl

   Ted: Why no representation from PC?
---- Jack Brewster
   (Ted's note: Very often, PC and Chestnut Hill, which is also inside the limits, have not been represented. Kids
are involved in spring sports and don't want to double up. I forget off the top of my head, but I'm not sure
PC and CH are even part of the process anymore. Kind of sad, huh?)

dear ted,
       Do you think the non-public o-line is going to dominate since the prep and judge lines are combined, i mean you now have conners , mair, troiano, and minetti, with nase, gaynor,ricci, and adams. i don't see the pubs defense being able to handle these boys. this is a genetically engineered offenisve line. How do you think they are going to match up.
---- football fan
   (Ted's note: When the Pub is successful in this game, it's almost always because of a quick, aggressive defense
that beats slower offensive linemen. That again will be the N-P's challenge.)

   I really think that this years all star game will be a great offensive
battle. Look I will tell you how. Lets look at the public league, they have
the Very strong arm quarterback from Bartum Phil Evens 6-1 205 ,Dobbins sure
handed Qb/Rec. Barron Grier 6-3 200, Mastbum outstanding running back Chirs
DeShields' 5-10 200 , Northeast Watchout player Chris Poindexter 5-9 200,
and I must not forget about Bartum other star player Romar Drake 6-2 200,one
more person I must talk about is Franklin beast Jonathan Jordan for his size
he has nice speed with very good hands. Now about the catholic leauge only
person I know that they have is Kyle Ambrogi 5-10 215, I know that they will
have two strong arm QBs with the arm power to throw deep in Sj Pep
startVince Gallagher 6-1 190 (He Took over for (Mike Mcgann Temple).and led
the prep to the red championship. and Mr.What Greg Hennigar from Judge 6-3
200. I know it will go down to the wire.
---- Jon Sims
   (Ted's note: It's sometimes tough to put together an explosive
offense for all-star games, so defense usually dominates. But
this year could be an exception.)

     quick, aggressive defense that beats slower offensive linemen. say that to my face Punk.  I'm 295 pounds (300 again by the end of this week) of running machine.  You know I'm 2nd team All-Catholic in TRACK.  How dare you say that.  Juat kidding but I doubt that any of the PUB D-lineman are much faster off the ball and as agile and manueverable (is that a Word) as Ryan Loftus.
---- An offended GOOSE
   (Ted's note: I was talking past games, my man. Not this one. -- smile. Really, though, when the Pub wins, it
always gets GREAT performances from quick defensive ends/cornerbacks)

   ted what do you think about maurice bennett and kyle ambrogi going at it.  i go to washington and i also play for them but im sure the only reason alot of people are going is to see that match up what do you think the outcome will be in that matchup
---- anonymous
   (Ted's note: RBs and LBs don't really match up unless the LB is "mirroring" the RB. I doubt that would be a
good idea in an all-star game. I'm sure Maurice and Kyle will have some great collisions, though.)

   yo ted why did u mention that there was a non-starter on the squad,. that kid is a tough nose player and desereved more than her got, he was the 6 th oloine men, i think you owe him an apology
---- player for the non pubs
   (Ted's note: Facts don't merit an apology. It shows how poor the seniors were at some of the other schools.
I am happy that he made it into the game, though, and I hope he fully enjoys the experience.)

   Why don't the cl respect the pub??? I mean they didn't
respect us last year and they didn't score! They don't
respect us this year and we will see what happens.
By the way our D is big and fast as it always is.
---- From an All Star
   BOE DAVIS, CHRIS DeSHIELDS, ALEEM MEDLEY, TRACY
WILLIAMS, MAURICE BENNETT, RYAN GORE, PERIOD..........

   As an alumnus of the public league squad and a supporter of the game from time to time let me remind these children that as good as the non public team is and has been in the past I believe the overall series is tied. When I played in this game years ago everyone, including all of the papers, said that the non public squad would destroy the public team. That non public team had at least 17 1-A players signed. In fact the quarterback of the non public squad that year squad is still playing on Sundays. The result was a very positive one for the public squad that year. So before anyone counts out the public league due to lack of big time 1-A players, size, or any other factor that does not matter in this game, remember "It's not the skill of the man it's the will of the man."
---- Public League Pride Forever!
   (Ted's note: The series indeed is tied, 13-13-1. The QB still playing on Sundays is Rich Gannon. The Pub has come up with some VERY spirited performances.)

    hey ted, i just wanted to comment on a remark made about the Catholic league not respecting the Public league, in reference to last years shutout game which didn't prove anything. Not taking anything away from last years public all-stars, but (as a reciever/emergency quarterback who took about 3 snaps at practice and learned most of the plays at half time) i'm still recovering from the shock of being thrown to the lions in that all-star game. With the playing field a little more even, we'll see what the deal is.
---- #11 2001 CL all-star
   (Ted's note: This is true. Dougherty's Vernard Abrams started at WR, then had to switch to QB. He did a nice job, considering.)

   Please tell me how the greatest St. Joe's Prep player of the 90s, Chip O'Connell, does not make this team. He is obviously better than all the DBs on the non-pub squad.
---- anonymous
   (Ted's note: Could it be that Chip didn't even play FB? Could it be that great d-backs of the 90s are not exactly eligible to play in 2002? -- smile.)

    Ted, about the non-starter for the Prep in the all star game, where you trying to say that he didn't deserve it? How can you say that. If you are indeed talking about the Colonel himself, than you are dead wrong, i know for a fact that he didn't finish that far behind the starting LB in tackles, less than 15, while playing a lot less time than the starter. He also was going to be voted as a first team all catholic by Father Judge, but his name was unfortunatly on the ballot. He was also in the game for and injured John Conners in the O'Hara game, when the Prep only passed the ball one time. You tell me why he doesn't deserve it. I hope that the Colonel proves you wrong, and that you will apologize to him after the game.
---- CL Football Fan
   (Ted's note: I was pointing out something UNUSUAL. That's it! In the history of all-star games worldwide, in any sport, how often have SUBS been in them? Except for relief pitchers in baseball, that is. Prep and Judge have so many players in the game in part because most of the other six N-P schools did not have strong senior classes.)

HI TED
    Did ya miss us?  Cause we missed you. This is Thunder of
THUNDER-N-LIGHTNING and I just got few questions for ya Ted. What DB's are
missing from this game that you think deserve to be here. Hmm. I wonder?
Just thought I'd let you that we made an appearance at an PL All star
practice, and it wasn't looking to good. RB's okay, QB's and WR's not to
bad, LB's and Linebackers acceptional, DB's well, umm, uhh,.......
That kid from G-towns a beast but the rest of those characters shouldn't
have a spot on the rosters or at least at DB. I mean some of tese players
had 1 int, ZERO int's, some of them didn't play DB at all. I mean I don't
want to sound like a hater because If they are there they must deserve to be
there in SOMEBODY's eyes(just not mine). TED all I'm sayin is that I had an
above average year at DB(3int's) and Special Teams(2tds), and my colleague
being a 2 year starter had nothing but the same(4ints,2tds). Yall might can
get a little help by letting my man O. Sanders from BROOK play DB, but other
than that, yall just don't have enough for the CL.
---- Love Always  THUNDER-N-LIGHTNING(brandon scott and deron dungee)
   P.S. since we can't play we'll be there front row, Early, to support our PL
LOUD AND PROUD. I'm sure you get our point TED. HOLLA
   (Ted's note: Thanks for checking in, guys. I know you're disappointed and
that's good because it means you REALLY wanted to play in the game. I also
like that you'll be there rooting. That shows class.)

   yo man i just got really 1 thing 2 say that pub is going 2 win i mean who is non pub man u will c when they play who will wit my 2 guys from lincoln are the allstarts of that team.
---- anonymous
   (Ted's note: Phew, that sentence gave me a headache.)

   This game will be very exciting and great players make the big plays when
they count. The best players of both leagues were picked because they are all
capable of making the big plays and that's what seperates the good players
from the great players. My prediction is the PUB will dominate and win 27-6.
Two NE players will walk away with all the pub awards. Darien Hardy with the
Defensive MVP, Chris Poindexter  with Offensive MVP and Ryan McMillan with
Special Teams MVP. So strap up those chin pieces and get ready to ball. Good
luck to all the participants in tonights game.
   P.S. By the way some players asked to play certain positions so that they
could prepare for that certain position in college. And if Thunder is coming
at Hardy I belive Hardy played DB for his sophomore and junior year as well
as in certain situations this past season. You can't blame Ted and the
newspaper for their selections only 50 players can be selected and GW
would've had more than its share if certain players were able to stay
eligible.
---- anonymous
   (Ted's note: Whoa, hold on! The Daily News has nothing to do with forming
the rosters. The players are picked by the coaches. I have a feeling this e-mailer
is a Northeast loyalist -- smile.)

Ted,
   PC was represented last year by Alex Collins, who played very well in the
game as an O lineman.  He went on to Ohio Wesleyan (I believe) wehre he is
playing linebacker. Others asked last year were Billy McKinney (Univ of
Denver),  and Ken Devenney (Davidson), but both were All-League performers in
Lacrosse and Baseball respectively.  I can't speak for CHA but I know that PC
is usually part of the process still, but you are correct that their spring
sports usually tie them up.
---- GJS

POST-GAME COMMENTS . . .

   The officials for the all star game were the worst officials I ever seen. The only reason the catholic league scored was due to bogus penalties. Dont get me wrong the catholic league played great im not taking that away but the refs must of thought they all looked cute in their tights because they were doing them all kinds of favors. Well any way we (the pub) were supposed to get destroyed, no one gave us a chance and we went out there and earned our respect. We proved the pub was no joke. Congrats the the catholic league, but now you have no choice but to respect the pub.
---- 2002 Hal Selvey Award Winner Russell Kubach #63
   (Ted's note: Some penalties were legit. Some did look shaky; remember, I was in the press box so it
wasn't possible to be sure. The PL indeed showed heart.)

Dear Ted,
  I think if Deron Dungee, Brandon Scott, and Kyle Bell would have Played it would have been a different story in the all-star game. They are the best three DB's in the Pub. Those northeast guys aren't going to get the job done.
---- Washington Player
   (Ted's note: The N-P QBs had too much time to throw. Some of those patterns took a while. The DBs were beat
on the TD plays, though. There can be no doubt about that.)

   yea the catholic league won but so what. nobody gave us a chance including
you ted and we stayed right there neck and neck with them. all of the
officiating crew were from the catholic league so you know they didnt want us
to win. I think the CL should respect us a little more now and no suburban
school should take the pub lightly. cant nobody mess with us when it comes to
RAW talent. Even though we lost by 2 i know we gained some respect.  ( Just
ask # 8 QB from the CL about #37)(he'll remember that number!!!!)
---- your UNSUNG HERO    Shahfin Timmons#37/27 Lincoln
   (Ted's note: Shahfin had the best hit of the night. Everyone's still feeling it.
He also did a nice job punting. I felt the Pub could hang. As I said beforehand,
the Pub needed good pressure on the QB. It got only one sack and the QBs
had time to complete key passes for big gains and/or TDs.)

   I watched the game on cn8 and even the commentators agreed that a lot of the penalties against us(the pub) were ridiculous calls, the only reason the CL scored the second touchdown was due to ridiculous calls. Like I said before the catholic league played extremely well im not taking that away but that game should have went to the pub.
---- Russell Kubach Guard #63                                   
I say next year people donate money to buy the referees  glasses.

yo pub dudes..
            remember that teams like bonner, carroll, mcdevitt, wood, and lasalle werent included in the non-public vs public team matchup. So don't think u can hang with the catholic league cause if all CL teams were involved in this game u wouldnt score a point.
---- anonymous
   (Ted's note: It is true that the CL uses players from just eight teams whereas the Pub has 20 schools to pick from.)

Hi Ted:
    I had to respond to anonymous, picking NE players to take every award,
did he/she not know that every game is different and being a true NE Fan I
would have never picked who was going to win until I saw them play, they
can't be much of a NE sports fan if they didn't know that the coaches picked
the players.  Personally, I was just a little bit upset that Public let
Non-Public come back and beat them by two points, I had to go to my car the
last 8 minutes.  Public, there is always next year.   To all the players, I
just want to wish you the best.
---- NE MOM
   (Ted's note: Thanks, as always, for your contribution. Stay well.)

  Congratulations to coach Coyle and the rest of the Non Public coaches
and players for a well job well done. I have no beef with them. I
would also like to say thank you to Tom McClain and the other
official who saw that there was a receiver in the area when Omar
threw the ball. What is the point of having other officials to assist
you if you are not going to allow them to do their job? I have no
problem with the 15 yard penalty for the rules violation during the
punt, we were wrong, but what about making the same call during our
field goal attempt?
  In previous years teams were at least warned before given such a
severe penalty. I know because I have worked several All Star games
where all I did was look for rules infractions from the booth. I am
not saying that these things would have changed the outcome of the
game, but who knows? CN8 did a wonderful job of covering the game and
pointing out that there also should have been at least 1 second on
the clock. For the young men who believe that if the other CL Schools
participated the game would have been no contest at all, SJP was your
big school champion. They were well represented. They are the
equivalent of an All Star team themselves, since a lot of their top
players traditionally live out side the city. We did not play our
cover 2 as well as I had planned. That was a big reason why we lost.
  From a personnel standpoint, we weren't even fully represented as
the best players in the Public League. Academic eligibility is the
responsibility of that player. However, when coaches of other sports,
put pressure on their athletes not to play because of their own
personal goals or they don't like All Star games, that's sad.
  In short I would like to Congratulate the 2002 Public League All Star
Football Team for their effort. It was a pleasure to work with so
many outstanding young men. I wish each and every one of you good
luck on all of your goals and dreams.
Public League Pride Forever!
Coach Damond "Smash" Warren, Public All Stars Class of 83
Chester High School
Head Football Coach
   (Ted's note: Best of luck at Chester, Damond. And thanks
for your hustle on behalf of city football.)

Yo Ted,
In the past I have gained much respect for "Smash" Warren. I believe he is the one who , after some behavior he did not approve of, made his players do push-ups.......................in overtime!!!! However, I was a little taken back by his e-mail concerning the All-Star game. Yo, Smash, 20 teams compared to 8 !!!!! Give me a break...............do you really think that little of your league??? Also when you talk about the Prep....please remember that they do not just exist for athletics..............their AVERAGE SAT is over 1100. Do you really think that players from Bonner, Carroll, Wood , McDevitt(which, right there brings it up to only  20-12 in favor of the PL) wouldn't make a difference -----you are not being realistic.Also, do NOT give the impression you are not making excuses and then start making them...............PLEASE!!! All I know is the Non-public team (stat-wise) out-played you & you lost----that usually happens when the other team passes & runs for more yards than you...
---- thank you, aquinasb
   (Ted's note: Damond is very competitive and I know he's still hurting that his last game as a Philly coach didn't produce a win.
One of the reasons he's leaving the Pub school system is that he knows too many people don't care, and aren't willing to match
his work ethic. Don't hold things against him, Quine.)

  Hey Ted. I find it typical that the very 1st comment for the 'Post-Game Comments' section is about the refs. You cannot complain about refs; thats only being immature. Maybe if you stuck your nose in there and stopped worrying about the refs job and only thought about yours, then maybe the game would have turned out different. But anyway, last season was fun, and I cannot wait till the next one.
---- Catholic League Player

   to fat #63 of the public team ....quit your crying u geek.......its aallstar game played for fun you are acting like its a championship game....and how u are saying "we proved the pub is no joke"....well it is a joke...i love how some of the kids on the public league team CUT every day of school and some how still get to practice everyday and be able to play in that game.. and i know that for a fact...now thats a joke right there......and if u want to start talking stupid .....the public league teams get to pick from 20 schools when catholic teams picks from 8.......think about it
P.S..why dont yous all stop dedicating your life to this comment pageand just go and play the game and have FUN!!!
---- Catholice league player
   (Ted's note: The Pub kids take the game very seriously because they hate being looked down on. Anyone who cuts
every day of school is only fooling himself.)

Yo this is for Catholic League Player,
          The only reason your not complaining about those ridiculous penalties called by the ridiculous refs is because they went in your favor and helped yas win. Without the penalties the game was going to us. And just so you dont think we(Public League Players) are complaining watch the cn8   broadcast of the game and listen to the commentators even they agree the penalties are outrageous.
---- Russell Kubach Guard 63                                          
   How do you throw an intentional grounding penalty 2 minutes after the plays over and there is a receiver 3 yards from the pass? And the refs weren't partial? Right, and their shirts weren't black and white.
   (Ted's note: I need to make a comment here that some might view as controversial. I found it amazing that no blacks were part of the officiating crew. The PL team was almost exclusively black and the N-P was almost exclusively white. It just didn't "look" right to see an all-white crew. I'm not saying there should have been one or two black guys just for the hell of it. I'm saying there are competent black officials in city football, and they could have been asked to work in the game. Maybe they were, and declined. Who knows? If anyone in the know cares to comment on this, please do. Thanks!)

Ted,
   I spoke to the assigner of the officials. He stated that the referee
is chosen and he picks "his crew". He also said that he believes they
were color blind. This may be the case or not. I do know that one of
them was wearing a Father Judge jacket before and after the game. I
don't believe there is a controversy in this situation. However, if
the game was played in South West or West Philadelphia, the crew was
all black, and one of them was wearing a Bartram jacket there would
definitely be a whole bunch of folks crying foul. Obviously these set
of circumstances would never materialize.
  Thank you for bringing out this issue and for always keeping it real.
Hopefully people's minds are open enough to see this point. The way
America still is, probably not.
---- Anonymous
   (Ted's note: Thank you. I just feel that in a game featuring
kids from all over the city, it makes sense that the crew should reflect
the city's makeup, at least to some degree. By the way, I don't believe
any of the refs made a call to intentionally stick it to the PL.)

every1 on here needs to stop complaining
   i mean ted how can you say what u said about the black refs ..do you want a race war or something???that was the most ridiculous thing i ever heard!! the pub is a bunch of crying individuals who play for theemselves and not there teams..why do you think all the pub teams are so bad..we the catholic league beat them in evrey single aspect of that game so shut up about it..and to the timmons who was trying to knmock our # 8 vince g.. nice call you dork i dont think he will remember you since we wont he game and he never knew you before the game and i am positive he dont wanna meet you cause all you do is run your little mouth and jump up and down..he owned you all game and threw a td on yourside so ..i think 1-0 vince
---- Justin O"Brien #35 Proud Non-PUb player
   (Ted's note: I stick by my comments, Justin, but I respect your opinion, too. Along with your skills, of course.)

  Ted you bring up a good point , there were so many controversial elements in this years game. All white refs, horrible penalties. Well complaining wont change the result so im done with it, ted it has been a pleasure writing in random thoughts I wish you luck with the site and the future.
For the last time for a while
---- Russell Kubach Mastbaum Guard D-Tackle #53/ Only white player on the public league all-stars Guard #63
   (Ted's note: Good luck to you, Russell. Maintain your focus and you'll go on to do memorable things. Thanks for
being part of the ever-wacky TedSilary.com family -- smile.)

   It is funny how we didn't hear any crying last year when the public won
(white refs).  Believe me, the refs could care less who wins that game.
 It's supposed to be for fun.  It's typical, when you don't blame yourself,
who else is to blame but the (white) refs.
---- BB Ref

   first of all last time we met 1on1 Obrien i remember you getting off your
back looking up at the clouds. i could have took that return to the house but
i wanted to put you on your back.  second of all im 2x's better than you on
offense and on defense (just give me your offensive line for one game and see
what i do) even with what i got i produce more than anyone could expect.  you
know who yall studied all week long before the thanksgiving game.
obviously you payed close attention to me to know what i did after i hit ya
boy. how many times did you press rewind. and maybe he wont remember me,
amnesia usually kicks in after hits like that.
 (oh yea i heard you play badminton or some other fluke sport, noodle)
----  Shahfin Timmons #27/37 Lincoln
   (Ted's note: I do know Justin played soccer, and displayed world-class skill before
he decided he preferred football.)

to shahfin timmons
       i think that justin proved his point on your last comment to ted (that most of the public league plays for themselves) i wonder what your line thinks of you saying that you would like a better o-line, maby they would like a better running back.
       also, i dont know why everyone is complaining about calls by the refs or anyone else.  dont you think they could of had somthing better to do than ref this game.  maby alot of refs dont want to ref this game due to all the complaining.
       this game was put together for us to have fun.   the coaches and refs do this for us kids.  i know alot of people from my school who would kill to be a part of this game, so who dont you all look at the big picture and think about all the nice things that happened to all of us during the game
       we got to meet a whole bunch of new people and become friends with them; we recieved free jerseys(game and pratice), we were able to use the eagles pants, were were given free pretzles, gatorade,shirt,etc; the board of directors through us a nice banquet to honor us; and the daily news covered the game
       so why dont we all think a little bit about them things instead of rembering who put who on someone else's back.  a true test of a mans character is not how many times he knocks someone down, it is how many times he gets up after he gets knocked down
       thank you everyone involved in the game, it was a great experience
---- rich ott/archbishop ryan
   (Ted's note: Strong effort, Rich. You definitely "get it." I hope you and the other participants enjoyed your experience
enough to become involved in later years in providing support.)

    just give me your offensive line for one game and see what i do.  Shahfin Timmons is now my main man.  O'Brien Sux. Go Railsplitters.  But no seriously Shahfin you are good but 2X better.  Come on Now.  I give you credit you did a lot for your team trying to kick, but you aint in Justin's league with that.  I think he has you on offense too, but Defense.  Probably you.  I don't know what other sport your talking about .  If it's soccer you can't talk [poop] there but I don't know what this Rugby junk is.  All I know is that Justin plays harder than anyone his size I've ever witnessed.  Ask Terrell Roper if he'll back down.
---- GOOSE
   (Ted's note: I'm not even sure Shahfin was Lincoln's full-time punter during the season, but he did an excellent job in the all-star game.)

to shahfin timmons,
   great. you can hit hard. we'll all remember. we'll also remember non-public won, without using a good number of PCL schools.
arrogance goes nowhere.
thanks ted.
---- anonymous
   (Ted's note: Everybody's bringin' it to Shahfin. I know he can take it.)

hey to ted
   i just came back fromt he shore for the weekend since i go out and dont sit in on my computer like good old shaffin of how ever u spell it..and i come on to check this up and i hear something out of his mouth like this..yo bro get real i lead the city in scoring tds and got 1st team all city ..what u get ??o yeah i was ne player of the yr all thanks to my o line??? where were you...bro u aint good u aint on my level and u never ran me over but i did score 3 times on u my senior yr and 2 times on you my junior yr..and was 2 time mvp of the turkey bowl FAM..is that how u say it...you cant even step on the field with me or my boys !!!
---- Justin O'Brien in shock

   i admit yall did win. and thats cool. its real petty to go back and forth on
this site we already settled this on the field. all im sayin is give respect
where respect is due. yea the CL has some great players   but the PL does to.
are they not so good because they go to pub-school.be foreal if you got
talent you got talent. just give respect where it is due.
---- Timmons #27/37
   (Ted's note: OK, this is the end of this debate. Shahfin and Justin were the
franchise players on their high school teams and both did well in the All-Star
Game. I wish both of them well in college. Thanks, guys.)

   If you take kids from twenty different schools, all with different coaches,
all with different terminology, and of course all with different degrees of
what makes an all-star talented player, then you will have more difficulty
forming a team of coherent players, all on the same page at the same
time.  How would the outcome be different if we only took from the eight
playoff teams in the pub and put the best against their best.   All school
in our league must be represented.  Imagine if we only took the Offensive
line from one or two schools and meshed them together.   They all played
with each other all year, they know what strengths and weaknesses they need
to overcome and how to overcome them.  Let's take only kids from
Washington, NE, Frankford, Mastbaum, Dobbins, Central, King and BOK, then
let's see how those kids stack up. 20 TEAMS TO CHOOSE FROM IS NOT AN
ADVANTAGE WHEN ALL SCHOOLS MUST BE REPRESENTED.  I think all the non-public
schools should be included in the mix.
---- Paul Cammarota- Offensive Line Coach
   (Ted's note: You make an interesting point, Paul. SJ Prep
and Judge had roughly 25 kids total in the game. That HAD
to help from the cohesion standpoint. The suburban kids
have other games to play in. I do feel the talent dropoff is
much quicker in the Pub than in the CL. The top-level guys
are pretty much equal. But the CL's second-line guys are
generally much better than the Pub's.)

   Whats up ted this is the biggest guy that was at the game and did'nt get in on defense because the defense line coach told me he was going to put me in on (d) but never did but you know how i play i still got my pancakes in. But could'nt do what i do on (d)(meaning them rushing yards the non-pub got would have been minus ever time i would have been on defense.
---- Frankford's finest # 73 always but # 72 at the game.
   (Ted's note: Hi Big Tracy! Sorry you didn't get to play defense. Good luck
in the future. I expect to see you on TV someday. Playing in the NFL in the
fall. Hosting a cooking show in the offseason -- smile.)

   Yo, Tracy I'm glad you have confindence in your defensive play, but what makes you think you would have been the difference. I know myself and the rest of my line were out getting our PANCAKES too. Just cause your big doesn't mean your good. I'm not saying your not good, I'm sure you very good going to Bloom but I don't appreciate you coming on hear saying that you would have dominated John Connors, Steve Ricci (both D-1AA lineman to be) or anyone else on our line. You play line so I know you can agree you would take offense to this too. So all I am saying is that just as you have the confidence in your abilities I have confidence in mine and I am telling you; you wouldn't have been the difference you may think.
---- GOOSE #78

   (Ted's note: Hey, Goose, we might have to set up an arm-wrestling match between you and Tracy. Or sumo wrestling?)

   I wish everyone would shut up about the ref wheather
there black of white. Who cares? I enjoyed watching
the game. I hope the players enjoy playin the game.
So who cares about the refs. Its only a game.
---- anonymous

   This message is strictly for the Washington DB's that came at all of
Northeast DB's and any other DB that played and to the other haters. The
reason why [Washington guys didn't play was this: they weren't good

enough or were academically ineligible -- this clause inserted by Ted to
take the place of some very personal stuff]. I hope the Washington guys
enjoy watching Ryan McMillian and the West Virginia Mountaineers, and

Darien "Party" Hardy and the Penn State Nittany Lions on ABC, while
Corey Sample dominates at Tuskegee University and Shafin from LIncoln
kills at Millersville.
-----Anonymous

   This is a message for the bird man that came at my line man ,he is the strongest,biggest, in this city like he said you could'nt BLOCK, OR MOVE him. only thing kept him from doing his twist on thier necks like he usually do is he did'nt want to break it and have them not play football again!!! and go head write your little fairy tail back but it not going to prove any thing unless we set up a little street ball and he do go contact on concrete he's just that strong ask north about him if you do'nt belive me.
---- anonymous